The Irish women Eleanor Butler and Sarah Ponsonby are known to history as the Ladies of Llangollen. In 1780 the two aristocrats caused controversy when they rang away together. They would spend the rest of their lives in Llangollen, a town in north Wales.

For nearly 250 years their relationship has been the source of intense speculation. Some claim they were Ireland’s first openly lesbian couple. Others insist they just kindred spirits. 

Last October I visited Plas Newydd, their home in Llangollen, and recorded this special episode of the show about these remarkable women.

Thanks to Garth A.P. Thomas for his time.

Lori Moriarity’s lecture mentioned in the show can be found at

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